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Large mark at left rear woodline 2 like this Sako, Tikka 2. Small mark at left rear woodline Sako 3. Mark at top across bore Sako. Tikka, on the other hand, varies in placement. Mark at left rear woodline VKT 3 like this 2. Mark at top across bore B 4 like this.

Mark at left rear woodline Tikka 2 like this 2. Mark at top across bore, with "T" Tikka 4 like this. Finland acquired many Russian and Soviet Mosin Nagants by various means including capture and purchase. Not all of them were stripped for parts and rebuilt with Finnish barrels, but were put back into service as they were, or with minor repairs and upgrades. Sometimes the only means of identifying these rifles is by the Finnish markings, of which there are several.

The most common is the "boxed SA" mark which is an abbreviation of Suomen Armeija Finnish Army and used as a property mark. Another common mark is the "D" mark, usually found on the chamber, but sometimes on the rear sight base. This indicates that the throat of the rifle was opened up to allow use of the Finnish D round which required more room for the larger ogive of the bullet. If the rifle was used by the Civil Guard it will have an "S" followed by a number which indicates the Civil Gaurd district it was issued to.

If it has two Ss and a number that is an indication that it was an army rifle that was loaned to the Civil Guard. Most Civil Guard rifles were transferred to the army when the Civil Guard was disbanded and also have the "boxed SA" mark. All the Civil Guard marks are less common than the army marks.

It possibly indicates repairs were made at that time. Apparently the Finns questioned the strength of these rifles and felt a need to proof them. The vast majority of Finnish captured and purchased rifles were not re-proofed. The pictures below show the various styles and typical locations of the marks. The rifles are commonly known as "MO marked" by collectors. The markings consist of the initials "MO" and one, in some cases two, two digit numbers added after the original manufacture date.

The "MO" and the added numbers may or may not be related. Two captured Mauser 98k rifles with an MO mark has been observed. One TT has surfaced that has second date and a very faint mark that is believed to be an MO.

The numbers are thought to represent dates because of their placement and the fact that they are always larger than the previous date. However, all the known dates are between and when there was no MO except for the last nine and a half months of There are a few known firearms with double dates that lack the MO mark, but they are the rare exception.

Likewise, few MO marked firearms without a second date have been reported. There is an obvious relationship between the date and MO marks yet just as obvious a conflict with the establishment of the MO and the dates. Those are not per se troops, but security guards employed by the MO. They wore. These units were used to guard various MO facilities.

It is possible that the date markings were placed on the firearms at the time of transfer from the army proper to the security force of some forerunner of the MO. These marks may also be unrelated to the MO mark. The MO mark itself is thought to have been placed on the firearms after March 15th, , either at the time of transfer from regular army stocks or to mark all VOHR firearms.

However, only a small percentage of the rifles in Russian arsenals have been imported to the US so the statistical sample is small. These theories have not been confirmed and are being researched at this time. If you have an MO marked firearm that you would like to have included on this page with a credit, please send the information to 7.

Refer to the 7. Thank you in advance for your contribution. Thanks to Lt. The "typical" range for third dates is to , inclusive. Third dates don't occur on second dates past This page includes firearms with pictures.

Raw Data Chart Click on the column headers to resort the table by the data in that column. The sort order can be reversed by clicking on the column title a second time.

Please be patient while the page reloads after sorting. Return to the original order by sorting the column. Examples outside the "typical" date range or lacking MO marks are highlighted in blue. Empire Arms "Hasso" Aztec Int. Boone "seldridge" "Chris G" "rocker98" Mosin-Nagant. Empire Arms "powderhead" "Enigma" "lvmb" "tojones" Don R. Mosin Nagant with Painted Marks All content copyright 7. Occasionally "Instructie" or a variation of it is also painted on the stock.

Other painted marks are encountered less frequently and have a variety of origins and meanings, which are often uncertain. This page will collect these types of marks in an.

To submit a picture to be included here please see the 7. The "15" is probably a rack number and if not Bulgarian, then almost certainly from somewhere in the Balkans. It is included here because unlike most Instructie rifles it is numbered, in this case "".

The meaning of the number is unknown. Picture courtesy of "anonymous". However, it still has the Imperial Eagles on the barrel and receiver which is not typical of Mosin Nagants from that area of Europe. It does have the typical "slashed box" refurbishment mark.

The meaning of the "H", or "I", is unknown. Picture courtesy of "markus". Picture courtesy of "MG". Picture courtesy of "Ron W". Picture courtesy of "The Hebrew Hammer".

Mosin Nagant Import Marks All content copyright 7. ATF rules and importer practices have changed over the years leading to a wide variety of marks with different information and in different locations on the firearm.

On occasion import marks are mistaken for original marks, especially when they are simply a number or letters rather than the importers name or location. Most collectors prefer firearms that are not import marked, and some will only purchase non-import marked examples. Currently import marks are a fact of life though.

Some marks are more discreet than others and these are usually preferred. When purchasing a firearm sight unseen over the internet an unsightly mark can be a disappointment.

Referring to the pictures on this page should give a collector a good idea of what type of marks to expect on a new Mosin Nagant whether it is a current import or an older one. Many of the marks used on Mosin Nagants by various importers over the years are included with the meanings of abbreviations and other relevant information. The numbers in the first column are for reference when discussing the marks with other collectors. Please refer to them in any correspondence regarding the pictures.

The second column contains the exact lettering and punctuation of the mark on the firearm. Notes are in the third column and the pictures in the fourth column are thumbnails which link to larger pictures. The marks are highlighted for clarity only and are not.

Many collectors subdue the import marks with various cold blue products rather than highlight them. M91 7. VT M91 7. This is not always the case and some rifles with barrel marks will not have the number on the receiver. In most cases if there is a serial number on the receiver, rather than the barrel, it was placed there by the importer.

Civil Guard rifles will sometimes have the "S number" on the receiver which was often used by the Finnish Army, and the importer, as the serial number. Samco imports may or may not have the serial number added to the receiver in one of two types of stamps. VT M27 7. M27s are not usually numbered on the receiver. Model 28 There is dozens of different types of Mosins made, but we are focusing on the ones that are most common to new buyers today. The stock has a cut out for the bayonet to fold all the way in.

Some stocks are solid wood and others are laminated. M38 Carbine Almost the same as a M44 except no bayonet. The stock may or may not have a cut out in it for a folded bayonet. Russia at one point only made one stock to fit both the M38 and M Mostly in solid wood stocks, but have been placed in laminated M44 stocks also.

They cut them down to carbine length. So, What do you have? If it is not above don't worry. All Bohler-Stahl barrels are "stepped". Curved rear sight Blade front sight P-Series barrels are scrubbed Russian barrels that have been relined.

The following marks are typical: The unmarked barrel to the left is thought to be a "P" without any of the typical "P" or "S" marks. It is SA marked, of Finnish origin, and considered uncommon. They have the Civil Guard logo "SY". Flat rear sight Front sight 1" from muzzle There are six major variations of M39s.

Log in Get Started. Register Don't have an account? History Talk 1. Background In the late s, the Russian Empire was in dire need of a new service rifle after having been equipped with Berdan single shot rifles for such a long time, which was a major contributor to heavy casualties in recent wars with the Turks, so a contest was announced for a rifle design to replace it.

A Mosin-Nagant sniper rifle It is also considered to be the most widely used sniper rifle. Many Mosin rifles are found with hex receivers, which are holdovers from parts originally set aside to build Mosins. Categories Bolt-action rifles.

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